[LOSTPOETS] ACT II: an AMA with PAK

Akai Sedo
11 min readSep 24, 2021

This is a raw transcript of AMA with PAK in his Discord on September 24th 2021 (13:00~ 16:00 UTC) about ACT II: THE REVEAL for LOSTPOETS.

The Q/A have been tentatively ordered according to four themes: POETS, WORDS / POETRY, ORIGINS, MISCELLANEOUS.

There is no edition to questions and answers as alpha could lay there.

POETS

[Q]
can you continue to burn pages to poets after the two week poet period? Or must it all be done in this two weeks?
[pak]
Pages can be converted to Poets for 2 weeks. After that, no more.

[Q]
if mute poets can’t be named, we need to make them speak first, so we need 2 pages to name a poet right ?
[pak]
No, only one.
1 Page — -> 1 Poet
1 Poet + 1 Page — -> A few words + a “name change”
+1 Page — -> +A few more words + another “name change”
+1 Page — -> +A few more words + another “name change”
+1 Page — -> +A few more words + another “name change”
+1 Page — -> +A few more words + another “name change”
+1 Page — -> +A few more words + another “name change”

[Q]
does “feeding” a Poet change its visual aesthetic?
[pak]
Not “directly” :wink:

[pak]
Yes, names will be unique

[Q]
Are there other uses for Pages besides the mechanism you showed us?
[pak]
Who knows :wink:

[Q]
The Poets come pre-named? If we want to rename them we need a Page.
[pak]
Poet #1234

[pak]
You were asking: “Can poets talk to each other?”
This is why I was unable to answer.
Because I would not know if your poet is able to talk, or not.

[Q]
Can Poets be firstly named later on, even if they got fed a page at minting?
[pak]
Yes, they can be named later. They will be named later in fact, as, you won’t be able to feed them pages during the Poet minting phase, “The Reveal” — those 2 weeks.

[Q]
for names is it first come first serve?
[pak]
Yes.

[Q]
will poets be able to keep their original name when given a page?
[pak]
Sure, “name change” is an attribute of the token, but you don’t have to use it.
You can sell your poet with 3 “name changes” stacked on it, for instance.

[Q]
Do poets have traits other than Name and Words that give the poets unique rarity
[pak]
Yes, they have a complex set of rarities, many attributes, and they will be revealed over time.
So, you can either wait for your poets full potential to reveal, or flip :clown: before you learn about how rare it is.

[Q]
What is max number of pages that can be fed to a poet?
[pak]
infinite

[Q]
Can we named the poets in the poets minting period or after?
[pak]
Yes, during the mint phase, you can not.

[Q]
does a mute poet have attributes nonetheless?
[pak]
Yes.

[Q]
can unnamed poets be named at a much later date?
[pak]
Yes.

[pak]
Mint phase starts tomorrow.

[Q]
Do we name the poets or is it given to us?
[pak]
You can name your poet any way you want. But please no more eggplants.

[Q]
We can name it tomorrow already? => no, it’s happening in ACTIII
[pak]
correct

[Q]
Do I decide to feed poets a page during mint or after mint? Like first mint poet and then afterwards use page to name them? Or does the ability comes at he same time 2 page minted at same time and ability to name is unlocked?
[pak]
After the mint.

[Q]
Even a mute poet can write?
[pak]
No, that’s why it’s a mute Poet

[Q]
Can you confirm if pages are burned once used by a poet?
[pak]
Yes, they’re used .

[Q]
Are latent attributes on chain?
[pak]
All of the attributes will be on chain once 365 days are complete. To keep specific details of the game hidden, they will be hosted during the game. They will still be part of the token and be acessible through OpenSea or such. (token uri)

[Q]
I’m curious how we actually view/interact with a poet’s words?
[pak]
Through lostpoets.xyz

[pak]
When your poets are revealed, you will only be able to see a tiny fraction of attributes.
Over time, more attributes will be revealed, and who knows, maybe that “common” one will be “ultra rare”

[Q]
not more poets, 1 page = 1 poet, feed it a page it gets words, feed it more pages it gets more words
[pak]
Correct

[Q]
during poet mint, is it 1 page at the time or can we convert in bulk?
Bulk is available I believe
[pak]
Bulk, for sure.
But since they are not 1155s any more (721s) you still have to pay the gas fee per token
so 10 poets are 10x more expensive to exchange than 1.

[Q]
how are poets “fed” pages? Is this achieved through the lost poets site?
[pak]
Yes, there will be plenty of things you can do through the website.

[Q]
Is there a time limit to use pages on poets
[pak]
Act III

WORDS / POETRY

[Q]
wait so why do we need 4 pages again?
[pak]
You don’t.

[Q]
is there a max amount of pages a poet can take?
[pak]
No, but there is a maximum number of words a “poetry” can have.

[Q]
How many words can a page give a poet
[pak]
no upper limit.

[pak]
you can have the same words in different poets. Words have rarities too, so, some words will be much rare then others… but maybe it won’t work for your poetry.

[Q]
But are the words randomly assigned?
[pak]
They are randomly given, and can be ordered.

[Q]
Oh we don’t pick our words from thin air? You provide them?
[pak]
Yes.

[pak]
How good of a poet you are.
How good you are.
How.. you are.
You? How?!
You..

[pak]
read this one. (See previous comment)

[Q]
Will you provide all the words and it is up to us to reorder them?
[pak]
Yes, you will be able to reorder the randomly given words, and write your poetry.

[Q]
Yes, you will be able to reorder the randomly given words, and write your poetry. => From tomorrow? or in 2 weeks?
[pak]
After the minting phase is complete — so ACTIII and beyond

[Q]
when you feed a poet a page to give it words, do you have to use every single word in your poem? or can you select some to use, and leave some unused?
[pak]
You do not, they just increase your “inventory”

[Q]
Can poems be deleted and re-written? By a future owner for example, but using the inventory?
[pak]
Yes, the words can be re-ordered.

[Q]
Will we know what words we are getting before using a page? Or will it be random and unpredictable?
[pak]
Random.
It’s very similar to the fridge magnets (words) — where you will have words, and you will be able to reorder them for meaning.

[Q]
will you need something to be able to re-order words?
[pak]
Imagination!

[Q]
Is there a limited number of words / page or it can be random?
[pak]
There is a limited number of words that each page generates, and the range is random too. Few words per page.
Because this is about poetry, not about novels.

[Q]
Can we unfeed pages from a poet once its fed
[pak]
No, used pages are burned, and you can not unburn them from the dead wallet
terminology wise, used pages are sent to 0x...dead wallet - so they are used, burned etc

[Q]
it gets more words, which is rare and i may get rarer words
[pak]
More words mean more ways to express — but maybe you will be fine with no words, or only one word will be enough to… create a story? Who knows

[Q]
one page = one word?
[pak]
No, a few

[Q]
Sorry if this has been answered, but Where will the poetry actually appear?
[pak]
Oh a beautiful question, and an important one too.
When you name your poet, you are changing the Title of your ERC721 — and when you write a poem you are changing the Description field of your ERC721
So in the end, everything is part of the token permanently

[Q]
daaaamn. does this mean that your own creativity will actually influence its value?
[pak]
For sure.
I was simply showcasing you 2 attributes in that image. “Origin” and “Latent” — and just like that, every Poet has many many attributes, and those attributes have rarities.
So even though Origin and Latent looks like the most “mathematically balanced” of all attributes, it will still carry rarity because not all poets (therefore origins/latents) will be minted.
As a result, I know how rarity in this collection works, but I don’t know what the rarest token is.
Because it’s not in my control.

[Q]
are words on-chain @pak ? :]
[pak]
not like loot, not initially.
We can take them on chain at the very end though.
Your descriptions/poetry will definitely be on chain.

[Q]
if we get a list of random words by using a page, can we not only reorder them but also remove some? or does the poem have to use every word given to the poet?
[pak]
You do not have to use every word you have for your poem.

ORIGINS

[Q]
are we still eligible for Origin drops even if we only have pages?
[pak]
No, only Poets can get Origins

[Q]
How many poets does one need to hold to qualify for an origins drop?
[pak]
Every poet is your ticket to an Origin.

[Q]
what does it mean “when an Origin is renamed, it is renamed for each Poet who bears it”?
[pak]
So let’s assume your poet has latent: ABCD and origin: EFGH (Position attributes for your poet, like every other poet.)
When the owner of Origin #EFGH renames the origin to Jack for instance, then your poet attributes (and every other Poet that carries the same origin) changes.

In this case, your poet’s Position attributes become latent: ABCD and origin: Jack — because you come from the same bloodline

[pak]
In other words, Origin poets will be able to rename an entirety of an attribute. Not just their token.

[Q]
Does the origin change mutate anything about the descendent poets’ aesthetics?
[pak]
Not directly, but I believe you would not like a poet with an origin name “Trump”

[Q]
Will it Cost pages to name Origins?
[pak]
No, origins do not need pages to change name or write poetry. But there is a twist.
An Origin can only be named once.

[Q]
May Origins change their poetry over time. Or it will be written once and forever?
[pak]
They can change as many times they want.

[Q]
May Origins change their poetry over time. Or it will be written once and forever?
[pak]
They can change as many times they want.

[Q]
Does the origin 365 day raffle begin after the 2-week minting window?
[pak]
Yes, to minimize gas wars, that is the decision.

[Q]
are the chances for origin airdrops defined by the count of the poets you hold or is it per wallet where you have your poets?
[pak]
Yes, in a way, that’s how it works. Because every poet is a ticket to the next origin drop.
Origins are dropped to Poets, not to Wallets

[pak]
Leaderboard Origins are already “earned”
Earned = they will instantly be dropped. They are separete from “yearly airdrops”

[Q]
your tweet is confusing me and some others. Are Origins now able to be renamed?
[pak]
Yes. For sure.

[Q]
“renamed” or just “named”? Like can you “name” the Origin only once, or can you “name” it once and “rename” it once?
[pak]
“named” — only once
As they have an initial name, it’s technically a “rename” — but can only be done once, for an Origin Poet

[pak]
No, they’re unchained. They do not need pages, or words. They can write anything they want.

[Q]
What would happen to all the latents of one origin, if that origin was burned
[pak]
Nothing

[Q]
can we choose an origin poet during the mint? or its random ?
[pak]
Random

[Q]
will origins drop to mute poets?
[pak]
every Poet (mute or not) is part of the 365 day “Origin” drops

[Q]
Pak, will we know which origin is tied to poet when it’s minted (e.g. if it’s one of the leaderboard origins)
[pak]
Sure, they all have a specific class of attributes. “Position” class
So, your poet will tell you which origin it comes from, because your poet will have an “origin” and a “latent”
So, that “Origin” is actually an “Origin Poet” as well as the Origin attribute of this specific poet.
So when that Origin Poet changes it’s name from “CPU4” to “Marie” — this poet will carry the new name, as, this one is coming from the same roots.

[pak]
277 Origin Poets are earned to be distributed, during the initial drop leaderboard
2 per day is set to be given, for a year (365*2 = 730)
1024–277–730 = 17
1 for me :heart:
16 left for Strategic Moves such as auctions :see_no_evil:

[Q]
my understanding is an origin can only go to one of the (up to) 64 poets that came from it; so any given poet can only receive a max of one origin as they only came from one origin
[pak]
Correct, an origin can only be dropped to the poets that have the same origin.
So some poets will have more luck then others, because, some poets won’t be minted at all.

MISCELLANEOUS

[Q]
hey @pak have u ever done a voice interview? would you go on something like uponlytv?
[pak]
Sure, do you provide a voice actor :wink:

[Q]
there is so much potential here. The Origin owners can create there own community etc
[pak]
That is also one of my expectations!

[Q]
will there be benefit to holding 10 poets in 1 address vs 1 poet in 10 addresses? Basically — during the page airdrop, those with multiple ash wallets were slightly at an advantage
[pak]
I can’t share airdrop strategies, because then, it would be exploited.
But from the “Origin Distribution” point of view, no difference.

[Q]
i cant get my ASH out of coinw exchagne untill the 30th, wiil this be an issue?
[pak]
I don’t thinks so! Unless, you were planning to use it to buy.. pages?

[Q]
does the game have a definitive final objective that we are trying to achieve? Or is it more of a social experiment/game theory?
[pak]
Depends on what kind of a collector you are. Some play the game of rarity, some others play the game of aesthetics. This is more of a sandbox with possibilities, that will let you create strategy based on your incentives.

[Q]
it seems like there are mechanisms in place to reduce supply of every item, induce collaboration between origins attributes, and competition between different origins. feels like Immortal Engines, roaming city states devouring smaller ones.
[pak]
:wink:

[Q]
is the phrase “Lost Poets” a direct reference to the Poets that aren’t minted because they are left as pages?
[pak]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Q]
what if we’re the poets and we get to write on the pages in the twist
[pak]
Can’t answer questions about another Act :wink:

[Q]
Are upcoming projects linked in any way with Lost Poets ?
[pak]
Since this is a big number of NFTs compared to some other collections (still tiny for what is coming to the NFT world!) these can be used for access tokens as well.
This is a foundation we can build on. As many of you here experienced, this server is made around 2 days ago, together, with whoever is here — that same state of mind should continue for the collection as well.

[Q]
DAO :wink: with voting rights :wink: :wink: :clown:
[pak]
Could be! As long as it has a purpose.
There’s 3+ billion people with internet access. 65k is a molecule in the ocean
Exactly, and, gaming scene is about to arrive, and it will arrive big.
65k is nothing.
Moreover, my structure has planned obsolescence as you start to realize slowly.
So I don’t think we’ll have “65k Poet PFPs”

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